![]() This means as fanatic variant you can lose if the faction on the other side of galaxy achieves size to war. It has good anti sprawl bonus from pops and stability bonus, but otherwise is pretty weak to conquering empires. I'd say the ethic could use a revisit balance wise but that's just my thought. As pacifist you also get peace parade edict which is now more or less shot into the ground due to the increasing edict cost. Your bonus for less war measures literally is the ethic stat showed at game start. Pacifist gives you a solid upfront reward. ![]() Maybe if you get nihilistic acquisition but, then again, kinda weird to see pacifists doing that, it feels like this ethic isn't really well designed.Įdit: Actually, there is an indirect way to thrive off peace, and that is offering yourself as a vassal for a fat contract and tons of bonuses, since you're not the best at expanding anyway, you can nearly double your research and just techrush for 100 years instead without wasting resources on military and enjoying the free protection, but it's not something only pacifists can do. That makes sense, but it's just odd that there is no real reason to seek peace as a pacifist doesn't it? Shouldn't they thrive off peace instead of gaming the system to seek war?Īlso, I agree, -sprawl is great in the current version of the game, so it's not a bad bonus, it's just that everybody have their own bonuses too and none of them are bad either, plus it's a bit harder to get pops when you can't do conquest. Ultra pacifist, authoritarian, synthetic ascension. And your vassals will get the planets with 2 pops left and 100% devastation. When the next war happens you pop raid at your heart's desire. You don't need many systems, you need pops. Pacifists do fine even when your vassals drag you into wars non-stop. Originally posted by mss73055:You have to make use of vassals to drag you into wars. Imagine if spiritualists couldn't make researchers, or materialists couldn't make bureaucrats or priests, that's kinda what pacifist feels like.Įdit: Actually Xenophile is a bit on the management handicaps side too, but at least you're rewarded for seeking out diplomacy and it's easier to make people vote for you or for your ideas. Just feels like instead of not being allowed to do stuff, they should be rewarded for doing certain things instead, like everyone else. I mean, they get a stat bonus, sure, but everybody from every ideology get stat bonuses too and often no handicaps associated with them. Xenophobe for slavery and growing their main popsĮgalitarian for productivity at the cost of controlĪuthoritarian for Slavery and slave boostsĪnd then there are pacifists, just for handicaps.įanatic pacifists for even more handicaps. ![]() Militarism for combat (and the spoils of war) He didn't responded to that, and the next chapter of the story is the email you received.but which I haven't received.Well yeah, it seems like every ethics kinda gets one kind of advantage. I responded to that by saying that I appreciated his having supported me, specifically, as a user, not to mention Pacifist in general, for at least 15 years, that I didn't begrudge him the upgrade fee, and that I had just completed a full $20 purchase. His prompt response was a complimentary coupon code.with neither commentary nor clarification. is this a full price upgrade with no discount to original owners, or did I miss a link? ![]() OK, here's the complete story: I picked up on Pacifist 4.0 from MacUpdate immediately upon its listing, and I immediately emailed Charles that my original registration info wasn't accepted on his website, and I didn't see anything about an upgrade discount, and was that correct, i.e.
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